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Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby prebuilt » Sun May 15, 2011 1:08 am

Just a quick word of warning about Google

I couldn't get a couple of exact domain names I wanted so I went with hyphenated versions

I got the temporary pages up 8 days and 3 days ago

They're both invisible, Google says it knows nothing about the domains - even though I used the same methods to backlink them that gets my temporary pages indexed in a day when they are not hyphenated

They're only 2 and 3 word domains, so not really spammy - and no real competition as they're for clickbank products that have not even launched yet

Guess I'm going to have to be real picky now and only register non-hyphenated domains - or stick "site" "blog" etc. on the end of the domain, which I don't really want to do
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby MasterMind » Sun May 15, 2011 11:57 am

Never had a problem with hyphems in the past but things could have changed. I still have lots of them in top tens but I haven't tried to get one indexed for quite a while.
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby wendyann » Sun May 15, 2011 7:48 pm

I have a site (built 2006) with 3 hyphens in domain name. It does just fine in search results today, but was a slow starter.

It's hard to measure because there's so many variables. Could be some unknown factor that's keeping it from being indexed. Did you get links from one of Mike's blogs or a contributor blog? There is one blog in the contributor blogs that is using very spammy tactics. Can't mention which one here though.

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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby prebuilt » Sun May 15, 2011 11:56 pm

wendyann wrote:Could be some unknown factor that's keeping it from being indexed. Did you get links from one of Mike's blogs or a contributor blog?
Wendy


Yes I used the usual backlink sources, including a few of Mike's blogs I always have had rapid success with

Hypehenated domains used to be great - which makes me wonder if they're now flagged for human review or something before being indexed
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby wendyann » Mon May 16, 2011 12:09 am

I don't think they'd have that much manpower, they're basically a huge machine.

Might be the time to go on to the next one, that domain may always be an uphill battle.

I don't think I'll pick anymore hyphenated domains either. I think Mike said somewhere to give them a miss.

Good luck anyway ;)
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby MasterMind » Mon May 16, 2011 7:24 am

Google has said for a thousand years that - don't matter. Lol, I used to believe them. Wonder if there's anyway to get WP to not put dashes in posts and pages paths. ;)
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7 days and 12 days to index hyphenated domains

Postby prebuilt » Thu May 19, 2011 5:10 am

Well both temporary pages ended up being indexed on the same day - even though one page was online 5 days earlier than the other

Something strange about it

Anyway, it's far too slow for cashing in on all the hype when a new Internet marketing product launches on Clickbank - have to have the whole site ranking by launch day as most of the sales are made in the first week, as people start Googling the product name after receiving loads of email about the product
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby prebuilt » Thu May 19, 2011 2:53 pm

I forgot to mention that neither domain rank in the top 30 results of Google

An all-in-one domain I made a temporary page for before registering these two duds, went straight to #8 against 51 million competing pages, and is now #5

The 2 duds have 2.3 million and 21 million competing pages
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby MasterMind » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm

Figure out which member blogs work to get your domain indexed the fastest. Not to give away a secret but for new domains I want blogs with PR, high alexa rank and preferably a .com. Using that I've had domains indexed in 6 hours.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to tell me when your domain selling thing is ready again.
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby prebuilt » Fri May 20, 2011 12:30 am

MasterMind wrote:Figure out which member blogs work to get your domain indexed the fastest. Not to give away a secret but for new domains I want blogs with PR, high alexa rank and preferably a .com. Using that I've had domains indexed in 6 hours.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to tell me when your domain selling thing is ready again.



Yes, I always post to 3 or 4 of Mike's PR2 logs as well as a semi-auto URL submit to 18 sites like alexa.com

Identical backlinking - very different results, which is why I think something is very wrong with hyphenated domains and Google now

re. site selling domain - proving hard to rank the site well - so not moved forward with it, as I don't see much point in listing sites for sale when there's no real traffic

I have another undeveloped domain for the same thing - may try and get my hands on a site selling script and put up a Xsitepro site

Been thinking about searching for, and buying in sites on page #1 of Google, but obviously not making much money, and changing them over to large scale Xsitepro sites, rather than building Wordpress blogs on new domains - which seems to be very hit and miss with Google the way it is now

Just when you think you've got it all sussed, Google proves you wrong!
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby admin » Sun May 22, 2011 4:13 pm

Guess I'm going to have to be real picky now and only register non-hyphenated domains - or stick "site" "blog" etc. on the end of the domain, which I don't really want to do


Personally I stay away from hyphenated-domain-names!

It's a coincidence but earlier tday I was talking to someone and I suggested that Google has all the data that helps them ISOLATE things that they can use to ADD or RANK SITES.

One thing we discussed is HYPHENS which I know has been a favorite among spammers for years. A lot of those domains have been burned with risky behavior ebcause the people who get the - domains don't value them as much as if they got the preferable no hyphenated domain.

I would NOT be suprised to hear that GOOGLE has a longer PROBATION perido for domains with hyphens - same with .info and .biz domains too - those are more likely to be in use by people trying to make a fast buck :'>
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby wexywexy » Sun May 22, 2011 6:46 pm

Personally, I avoid hyphenated domain names simply because they are rarely seen as high rankers. You might find a niche where they work here and there, but by and large, there are plenty of more important considerations that should carry more weight (e.g. get domains with your targeted keyword).
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Re: Hyphenated Domains Now Poison

Postby admin » Wed May 25, 2011 9:12 pm

there are plenty of more important considerations that should carry more weight


Correct! 8-) Like is it environmentally friendly :lol: bad joke
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